Star Trek XIV news

[Jada]

So, apparently the next Abrams Star Trek movie was pitched by Quentin Tarantino and will be R-rated at his request:
https://deadline.com/2017/12/quentin-tarantino-star-trek-r-rating-mark-l-smith-the-revenant-drew-pearce-lindsay-beer-jj-abrams-1202222161/

If he required an R-rating, then maybe, just maybe, Quentin Tarantino just wasn't at all right for Star Trek? If you can't tell a good Star Trek story for everyone, then you can't tell a good Star Trek story.

Well, I guess the Orion Syndicate is coming back in a big way...

[Solluk]

It's too early to consider any of this as being remotely a done deal.  This is more akin to when the Transformers movie invited a bunch of new talent into the writer's room to hash out new ideas to try to reinvigorate the franchise.   Nothing came of it.

[Naira]

I'd be okay with a possible R rating if the plot touched on some of the darker, not entirely kid-friendly, aspects of Trek. Things involving some violence, death, assassination attempts, slavery, war, conflict and deep-seated hatred between certain species.

What I wouldn't want to see is a bunch of swearing and sex scenes that serve no real plot purpose but attempt to make it edgier and draw in young people that may otherwise not watch it because it is Trek.

[Jada]

Unfortunately, Tarantino is the person least likely to do a mature approach to any that.

I favour a kid-friendly Star Trek, really, one that's open to everyone. But I grew up with it, of course, and I like the idealism and utopianism that TNG tried to show. The more current culture is able to show such things, the more modern televised Trek is lagging behind, it seems. 

Thanks Solluk. Context is one thing always missing from news.

[Ardyn Jaeger]

To be completely honest, I feel like this would be a very bad idea in the long run.
My family doesn't watch R rated movies, as we are not fans of excess profanity, violence and nudity, and while I am a fan of Abrams' previous movies, I will never watch a movie like that, unless it was filtered.

I feel like Tarantino directing would be a bad direction for the franchise, R rating or not. His style of explosions and profanity does not seem to fit Roddenberry's vision for the whole universe.
The exclusivity of the R rating would drive away viewers, especially of the younger audience they want, as R ratings in general (not including outliers like Deadpool and Logan) tend to not make as much money in returns because of that, and for such a high budget film like the previous JJ films have historically been, this wouldn't be a successful film.

To conclude, I'm not for this. If this R rating is just an excuse for putting in "edgier" elements to bring in audiences, then i doubt that it's going to be a good movie, which is a shame.

[Naira]

I agree, I don't think Tarantino is a good choice and I don't see him taking a mature approach to the plot. I think a PG-13 approach, by someone else, would be a much better idea. However, like I said before, if someone else wanted to handle more mature topics in a Trek setting, I wouldn't be opposed to an R rated film, but it needs to be handled in a mature way that still pays tribute to the older material.

I thought about this more last night and I don't know if I could bring myself to watch something that called itself Trek if someone kept dropping f-bombs on the bridge.

[Jada]

Hollywood has a strong tendency toward "me too!"-ism and taking the wrong lesson on board when it does. After the success of Deadpool and Logan as R-rated superhero movies, I guess lazy execs think an R-rating is needed to be successful, rather than what actually made those movies work, with humour, storytelling, and staying close to the source material. (I haven't seen Logan, so I can't say.) Deadpool is going to have a lot to answer for.

[Solluk]

Please see Logan.   It is absolutely the best of the Wolverine franchise and probably contends for top spot as an X-Men film, despite there being few X-Men in it.

The R rating was important only insofar as it allowed Wolverine to be himself as a character.   Even as a child, I was bothered by the very good X-Men cartoon of my time... because Wolverine could never seem to cut anyone with his claws.

[Ardyn Jaeger]

I mentioned Deadpool and Logan specifically as outliers because they had more popular acclaim because of their writing. Mostly it seems like (from my perspective) is that the stories tend to be watered down by adding unnecessary elements to just to make them "edgier". It's a lazy writing tactic that undermines the story. I understand if it is necessary for the story, but oftentimes, it isn't.

[Kirok]

I don't really see Tarantino pulling off a good Star Trek movie.

[Mondo'li Nari]

"I don't really see Tarantino pulling off a good Star Trek movie."

The good news is, even if the movie is not a good Star Trek movie, it will be memorable.

Tarantino rarely does anything humdrum.